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		<title>By: Jolla trabaja con un equipo de Finlandia detrás de los teléfonos HUAWEI &#124; MundoSailfish</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2013 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not make a cover where the keyboard can be used to protect the screen, like some Android - use use the USB connector. Once you provide a protective cover, make one with a huge battery. Draw a line and say &quot;This is the core device&quot; and then &quot;if you want bells and whistles, this has also been considered&quot;..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not make a cover where the keyboard can be used to protect the screen, like some Android &#8211; use use the USB connector. Once you provide a protective cover, make one with a huge battery. Draw a line and say &#8220;This is the core device&#8221; and then &#8220;if you want bells and whistles, this has also been considered&#8221;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jolla trabaja con un equipo de Finlandia detrás de los teléfonos HUAWEI &#124; MundoMeego</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 23:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JollaTides</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2013/03/12/jolla-works-with-finnish-team-behind-nokia-e-series-and-huawei-smartphones/#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JollaTides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make some good &#039;real user&#039; points there and I can agree that for older generations who are used to keypads etc, not having a button might seem quite alien.   But then again I also hope that when I&#039;m older I will still be willing to learn new tricks (but ask me again in 15 years I might have changed my mind by then lol). :-)

I have used eg. ported android apps on another system and in that case, the OS basic elements still applied and software buttons wern&#039;t necessary and I hope it may be the same in Sailfish.  For instance with the system I used, you swiped up to exit the &#039;android&#039; app and this worked and other options worked the same as native apps.

In terms of swipe - you&#039;re right there can be some downsides when the OS isn&#039;t polished.  I have tried two swipe systems, and for example if you are playing a swipe based game you sometimes swipe too far and come out of the game screen back to the phone UI.  But in this case I have had the same issues with a touch button phone where I swipe for the game play and accidentally touch the home button etc so I&#039;m not sure there is much difference.

I don&#039;t think swipe alone will define whether something is a niche product or not... implemented well a swipe-based OS can easily be mainstream and is the future - what&#039;s more important is a solid overall product in terms of hardware, software support, availability of apps and good distribution channels.

Just my two cents... thanks for the input :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some good &#8216;real user&#8217; points there and I can agree that for older generations who are used to keypads etc, not having a button might seem quite alien.   But then again I also hope that when I&#8217;m older I will still be willing to learn new tricks (but ask me again in 15 years I might have changed my mind by then lol). :-)</p>
<p>I have used eg. ported android apps on another system and in that case, the OS basic elements still applied and software buttons wern&#8217;t necessary and I hope it may be the same in Sailfish.  For instance with the system I used, you swiped up to exit the &#8216;android&#8217; app and this worked and other options worked the same as native apps.</p>
<p>In terms of swipe &#8211; you&#8217;re right there can be some downsides when the OS isn&#8217;t polished.  I have tried two swipe systems, and for example if you are playing a swipe based game you sometimes swipe too far and come out of the game screen back to the phone UI.  But in this case I have had the same issues with a touch button phone where I swipe for the game play and accidentally touch the home button etc so I&#8217;m not sure there is much difference.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think swipe alone will define whether something is a niche product or not&#8230; implemented well a swipe-based OS can easily be mainstream and is the future &#8211; what&#8217;s more important is a solid overall product in terms of hardware, software support, availability of apps and good distribution channels.</p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8230; thanks for the input :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slide physical qwerty]]></description>
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		<title>By: Official: Infinity Confirms Did Not Work On E-Series But Has Worked With Nokia &#124; Latest Jolla Sailfish News</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Official: Infinity Confirms Did Not Work On E-Series But Has Worked With Nokia &#124; Latest Jolla Sailfish News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] note that our previous story includes some false information regarding the Nokia E-Series, but does not detract from the fact that Infinity have worked [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: roshan kumar</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you. Many of review sites show phones side by side and gives thumbs down to phones that are slightly thicker. They like materials like brushed aluminium and other exotic material which are very slippery.

I personally used i phone and personally hate the aluminium  metal finishes. There were many instances of my i phone slipping off hand because of the little sweat that comes when phone heats up while playing games like fruit ninja for long.

My understanding is we go and design by what reviewers say. .  we will get an exotic piece of art. . not a phone that you can use daily with out any hesitation. When we hold a phone we need to have the confidence while using not a fear of holding some delicate and fragile thing.

In that aspect Motorola defy and defy plus are really good. they are slightly thicker easy to hold and have an ergonomic rubber coating that prevents slipping. but again its a pure touch phone. . :(

Also another interesting form factor was made by Motorola called Motorola back flip. It has a physical keyboard which can be flipped back and used. An interesting feature of this form factor is the ability to integrate a track pad on back of screen so that the content on the screen can be scrolled very easily without our fingers blocking the screen, It was a great phone except for the rubber keypad (which can be made better) and poor configuration.

Another advantage of this form factor is ability to use a single camera on the keypad that eliminates the need for front facing camera. When we need to do video chat the keypad can be folded out and used as front facing camera, under normal use the camera is usually on the back of the phone. Kindly check that.

all the best jolla guys. . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. Many of review sites show phones side by side and gives thumbs down to phones that are slightly thicker. They like materials like brushed aluminium and other exotic material which are very slippery.</p>
<p>I personally used i phone and personally hate the aluminium  metal finishes. There were many instances of my i phone slipping off hand because of the little sweat that comes when phone heats up while playing games like fruit ninja for long.</p>
<p>My understanding is we go and design by what reviewers say. .  we will get an exotic piece of art. . not a phone that you can use daily with out any hesitation. When we hold a phone we need to have the confidence while using not a fear of holding some delicate and fragile thing.</p>
<p>In that aspect Motorola defy and defy plus are really good. they are slightly thicker easy to hold and have an ergonomic rubber coating that prevents slipping. but again its a pure touch phone. . :(</p>
<p>Also another interesting form factor was made by Motorola called Motorola back flip. It has a physical keyboard which can be flipped back and used. An interesting feature of this form factor is the ability to integrate a track pad on back of screen so that the content on the screen can be scrolled very easily without our fingers blocking the screen, It was a great phone except for the rubber keypad (which can be made better) and poor configuration.</p>
<p>Another advantage of this form factor is ability to use a single camera on the keypad that eliminates the need for front facing camera. When we need to do video chat the keypad can be folded out and used as front facing camera, under normal use the camera is usually on the back of the phone. Kindly check that.</p>
<p>all the best jolla guys. . .</p>
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		<title>By: akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is indeed good news! Hopes for a phys keyboard goes up. A slideout would seal the deal for me without any doubt even if I&#039;m already convinced that I will buy the Jolla phone when it comes out anyway.
I would never go buy a slow and laggy android phone today, not when the future looks so promising. Ubuntu phone, Firefox OS and best of all Sailfish. They&#039;re all in a totally different division in many aspects compared to the alternatives today. Best of all is the Qt based devkits. Mobile future looks bright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed good news! Hopes for a phys keyboard goes up. A slideout would seal the deal for me without any doubt even if I&#8217;m already convinced that I will buy the Jolla phone when it comes out anyway.<br />
I would never go buy a slow and laggy android phone today, not when the future looks so promising. Ubuntu phone, Firefox OS and best of all Sailfish. They&#8217;re all in a totally different division in many aspects compared to the alternatives today. Best of all is the Qt based devkits. Mobile future looks bright.</p>
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		<title>By: miemie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miemie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also my parent weren&#039;t able to use the phone, when they tried it. They have touchscreen smartphones (by Nokia), but the N9 swipe is too abstract for them, and it requires too much control of your fingers. The swipe is for people with good finger dexterity. That&#039;s why there should be an option to turn it off and just use a regular home key. Other parts of Sailfish would still work in the same way. A home button would make the phone more appealing to a wider audience, who doesn&#039;t care what phone they have, and how it works. Otherwise it will be a niché product, meant for just the design and computing people.

And for myself it is sometimes annoying to push on buttons that are really close to the edge. Sometimes the screen just bounces as it thinks I&#039;m trying to do a swipe. Of course this is an UI design issue on the apps themselves, but there will always be apps for Sailfish which will ignore swiping issues (such as Android apps compatibility).

And that&#039;s another thing: How will the Android menu/back/search -buttons be integrated in the physical design? Or will they just be software buttons that appear when you are using an Android app... Probably just software buttons...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also my parent weren&#8217;t able to use the phone, when they tried it. They have touchscreen smartphones (by Nokia), but the N9 swipe is too abstract for them, and it requires too much control of your fingers. The swipe is for people with good finger dexterity. That&#8217;s why there should be an option to turn it off and just use a regular home key. Other parts of Sailfish would still work in the same way. A home button would make the phone more appealing to a wider audience, who doesn&#8217;t care what phone they have, and how it works. Otherwise it will be a niché product, meant for just the design and computing people.</p>
<p>And for myself it is sometimes annoying to push on buttons that are really close to the edge. Sometimes the screen just bounces as it thinks I&#8217;m trying to do a swipe. Of course this is an UI design issue on the apps themselves, but there will always be apps for Sailfish which will ignore swiping issues (such as Android apps compatibility).</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s another thing: How will the Android menu/back/search -buttons be integrated in the physical design? Or will they just be software buttons that appear when you are using an Android app&#8230; Probably just software buttons&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ewedel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ewedel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+1 to everything Roshan says: built-in slide-out keyboard, phone size / &quot;handability&quot;, non-slip surface.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 to everything Roshan says: built-in slide-out keyboard, phone size / &#8220;handability&#8221;, non-slip surface.</p>
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