Comments on: The Continuum Theory

By: 24 hours to go: great expectations « Latest Jolla Mobile News

24 hours to go: great expectations « Latest Jolla Mobile News — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:08:17 +0000

[...] For all my idealist qualities, I am undecidedly realistic underneath and accept that Jolla do have a big open ocean ahead of them, but I also know that this is only just the beginnings of their journey and all things are possible with a strong belief and a good headwind. For these reasons, I believe Jolla have the perfect base to succeed along with support from a broad audience of people stretching across our globe. Those people who sampled the delights of what Maemo and MeeGo brought us, those people, like me who longed for more but never got a chance to see some form of continuation. [...]

By: rantanen

rantanen — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:22:55 +0000

the most important thing that you wrote, imo, is “a decent sized app store and you would have phones that would be very viable alternatives to the likes of iPhone”
People now buy smartphones mainly to have Facebook,Viber,Whatsapp apps. So a good step for Jolla is to make a deal with this sofware houses to have this apps developed for Jolla/Meego phones, regularly updated. Hardware should not be an issue, as long as the battery last more then the BL-5J…and is removable

By: akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f

akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:15:19 +0000

I didn’t know about that, about the Asha S40 and 808 Pureview. Well that’s a few good signs indeed, that Nokia still is a company of its own, with its own strategies and that MS is still on some sort of partnership level.
What I got to understand about Nokia is that many employees (I’d guess mostly developers) are very open source minded with everything that culture/ideology brings. I hope some of that mentality is still living within Nokia these days. Or did all these guys go away at the same time Nokia dropped MeeGo/Qt? I remember the protest day at Nokia, where employees took a day off using their overtime hours. People leaving office during work days earlier than before, just “doing their time”, nothing more. It felt like the company soul was lost.
But in that case, I also give my hopes to Nokia investing in Jolla. It would be like a comeback, and people with the open source ideology would have the conditions and decisions on their side. Lets keep our fingers crossed. Phew, 13 days left until the announcement of the OS!

By: JollaTides

JollaTides — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:32:31 +0000

Yes, you raise a good point – I’m not sure how ‘controlled’ Nokia are by MS are at this stage. But I have to think that Nokia are still fully independent being that they are still able to work on the Asha S40 line. I know Nokia have been receiving payouts from MS on a quarterly basis, and assume that is specifically to market Windows Phone. I also don’t think we would have seen the Symbian based 808 Pureview come to market if Nokia were restricted in this way. As we have seen, Nokia have gone back to basics and are focussing on a 1 OS strategy in hope that it will revitalise the company. My hope is that WP is a success for Nokia so they can afford to start investing in a new partnership with Jolla and the Sailfish OS whereby continuing from where they left off with MeeGo. This strategy would not be in direct competition with Jolla, but instead would actually benefit Jolla on all levels.

By: akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f

akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:37:39 +0000

Yes, I’ve heard that Nokia somewhat give their blessing to Jolla, so hopefully they at least won’t hold an aggressive competitive attitude towards them, or maybe even better, cooperate with them, expanding their product range beyond W8. But what about Microsoft, we know them all too well, my guess is they’ll protect their W8 with tooth and nails, prioritize their new look and feel for all their platforms over anything (anyone can see they wan’t to blend everything together, desktop, tablets, xbox, phones into one concept to cover it all). I’m wondering who’s turning the wheels when it comes to stepping outside of that, Nokia or Microsoft.

By: JollaTides

JollaTides — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:20:50 +0000

Thanks for comment and nice to know someone else is on the same wavelength.
Just to clarify, of course I would far rather step back in time when a Nokia/MS partnership did not exist and for things to be different now, but as it stands presently, I still want Nokia to succeed as without them, we would never have even experienced the benefits of a company trying something outside the box (aka maemo/meego etc). The hope is that if Nokia can be successful once again, they may well adopt Sailfish into their own smartphone range. Jolla amongst other pursuits, as you probably know, are very actively looking for partner manufacturers to license Sailfish to.

By: akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f

akismet-ae43be8a621489f9d33ff39d2c74ca1f — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:06:35 +0000

I agree completely with everything written in this post. It’s like it would have come out of my own mouth. The continuity was Nokias biggest problem, and probably will be. The Nokia N8 is actually still fantastic. My wife has one and it takes absolutely fantastic photos. Ok, N8 has some other quality issues, but it really has Symbian on a totally different level. The same goes with the total sadness of the N9. Its probably the best ever made this far (ok, as a regular smartphone, maybe not the as something more tablet-like N900). Execs at Nokia never realized they were so close to the goal. They jumped on the wrong wagon, least to say, they also abandoned long and hard investments, in ALL fields, customers, products, engineering, employees, software, hardware everything. All this just because of this brainless chase and fear of the iPhone.
I am though, unlike the writer here not as keen on seeing Nokia in success together with M$. As I see it, they can have it. Take a real bite of that strategic move and take it to the grave. And also, I don’t want to see them as a possible future competitor to Jolla.

By: JollaTides

JollaTides — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:58:17 +0000

My N900 is in the same situation – it can still recharge but sometimes I find it in the morning with no charge because of a loose USB connection which is frustrating since I’ve always taken great care with it. I have the N8 now as my main phone which I find incredibly versatile but the ROM is too small (256mb) and the speed of the old processor makes it lag sometimes. Aside from that it is perfectly functional and symbian is very power efficient and works pretty well on a slow processor. I also have an N9, but find I use the N8 more due to a better stocked app store and the FM transmitter which I am totally reliant on it seems. I also find the main problem where we live the N8 or N900 always picks up 1-2 bars of reception, but the N9 often struggles to get any bars at all. It’s a crying shame because I absolutely love the N9 and would to use it as my main device but with no reception where we live it is unusable. I got the N9 2nd hand so maybe the antenna is slightly faulty? Actually I’d be really interested to know if anyone else finds the N9 antenna to be inferior to the N900 or N8 or other Nokia models ?

By: JollaTides

JollaTides — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:32:47 +0000

That’s right if you as a customer receive a good aftercare continuity you are more likely to buy the successors a few years later and tell your friends about it – Apple has the best model here. Mobile phones aka Smartphones have become like PC’s, you use them for X amount of time until the hardware becomes outdated with the latest software and then you replace when you can afford to. The problem with Nokia is I was happy with eg. N8/N900 (even though the aftercare for N900 was mainly through the Maemo community), but now 3 years later there are no viable successors to those models.

By: Hatem Hebieishy

Hatem Hebieishy — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:03:00 +0000

I do agree on CONTINUATION… I had iPhone 4 & I upgraded the IOS to version 6!!! Here is the trust… My device hardware still support the upgrades… Although, iPhone 5 (the 2nd edition after mine) on shelf now.
My wife holding N8, it is just a wonderful phone with great ecosystem… But it is dying because of lack of apps… We still need major OS upgrade to make it live again…

Jolla wants to work on this point, we don’t want to buy a device & put it on shelf after two years… Here is you can build creditability a long leasing relationship with customers…